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Cup Without a Saucer

by Martin Cudworth

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The DCM Collaborative music, Cm Edition
The 21 Collaborations - Index A - U

[H] The Flying Saucers
[H5] Cup Without a Saucer

[H5] Cup Without a Saucer - One time when the 'The Flying Saucers’ came to Earth to play a few low key gigs, they met a guy, headlining at a local watering hole, Martin Cudworth, and very good they thought him. So they took him back to Venus with them, and he entertained them royally on the long flights, well about 3 hours in the saucer., After a few years of partying he got home sick and they brought him back to Earth. Unfortunately he left all his tapes on Venus, except for these. so only a few scraps remained of the times they had. Now these too have become the stuff of legend, as he left them on a bus, a Si fi nut found them, and recognised the tape brand as Venusian. He bootlegged them as ‘Syd Cup and the Flying Saucers’. We at DCM love a Tsll Story and Martin Cudworth - a Splendid guy - so we've included them here as: 'Cup without a saucer' - it's a bit rough, perhaps, but come on, Venusian Cassettes in the 70’s were awful, but there is some lovely music to be had here.

[H4] Saucer Blues. Their 3rd studio album - apparently quite sometime after the first two - and of course the live ‘at Area 51 album.

Well, David Dhonau and I were driving with Jim Tetlow on a sort of DCM day out, in Derbyshire my home and we stopped off at Bonsal - the UFO capital of Britain for Tea and scones. Rather taken by a geeky bookshop we went inside and were looking through some old records and found two other Flying Saucer Albums. Some guy in the area had found then on his farmhouse doorstep alongside crop circles in his Fields. We bought them and went off to meet the guy. He told us all about the area - how you get buzzed at night by them - he had even had aliens in his kitchen wanting milk for their tea - they left the records as a gift in return - stuff they listened to between the stars. Not his taste he passed them on just a few days before. We were lucky they were still there - as DCM Director I lost no time in publishing them.

[H3] Live at Area 51 - The DCM Text. “Dark Cosmic thrash - much to the surprise of the US Government when ‘They’ turned up to play. There was no dissecting them - John Highhat in his Air force uniform made sure of that. He had taken Venusian Citizenship and even a Venusian wife he wasn’t keen to leave the saucers. That’s what it said on the tape that we could read. The rest was in languages too strange for us. This bootleg has been circulating the inner planets for years and has been available on Earth though through special interest groups - especially in Germany where this kind of music really took off in the Early 70’s. This is a 1973 Radio Venus broadcast of that Gig which was in ‘our’ 1969. Did Tangerine Dream help them or the other way around ? It’s not encoded with secret messages don’t waste your time looking - it’s just good old Rock’n’Roll - try The Rolling Stones for that kinda stuff. We at DCM got our copy from a bookshop in Bonsal, near Matlock, Derbyshire, the UFO capital of Britain - together with their third studio Album ‘Saucer Blues.”

[H2] Home to Venus - their second album - found together with their first [H1] at a UFO crash site and someone in the US dropped some copies over to DCM. The text - helpfully in English read -

“Returning from Vietnam, now alone in his B52, Captain John Highhat, had stayed at the controls so the crew were able to bail safely. It is what any man would do for others in peril. Now He was heading for the drink - a few seconds and it would all be over. Suddenly on the horizon a flying saucer appeared, ’What the hell’ he said - just as he felt himself dissolve. He’d been beamed on board the crazy ship, saving his life and taking him back to Venus. Here John taught the Venusians to play rock'n'Roll and the band was formed, with julian Broadhurst and Christian Milezhigh Delaney, Chen, Qasm and Bling. Their first two albums Out from Venus and Home to Venus became cosmic classics and nothing more was heard of The Flying Saucers for many years. Recently two additional albums that had circulated the inner planets as bootlegs for years came to light on Earth, Live at Area 51 was broadcast on Radio Venus in 1973 and additionally a third studio album, Saucer Blues, was discovered at the same time. Since then sadly nothing more has been heard of them, retired no doubt happily, on Venus where we hope they still play the odd gig.”

Seems this stuff is popular with the Alien crowd and as they say a Cosmic Classic - so we at DCM thought we’d cash in and released eventually all five.

Some Kats at my Local University may have helped. I met up with an old friend from my wild days, Martin Cudworth who introduced me to them and splendid time was had by all at all times of the day and night - man do Venusians party ! Did I behave like that when I was their age - well, yes !

I had not long finished the first run of albums with David Dhonau as D’juil and some work with Johannas Schafer - and sandwiched between that and the Saucers was a 13th album for Tetlow and Broadhurst with Jim Tetlow [] Tredecadent voices.


- The Flying Saucers - The albums -

[] Out from Venus - [] Home to Venus - [] Live at Area 51 - [] Saucer Blues - [] Cup without a Saucer (All Discovered 2011+).


- The Collaborations in Chronological Order -

[A] Huddersfield Impromptu - with the Huddersfield Improvisation group - 1 album : [B] Tetlow & Broadhurst - with Jim Tetlow - 19 Albums + 3 Arkiv albums : [C] Etuda - with Choreographer Dr Joanna Geldard - 2 albums : [D] Revenge of the Umbrella People - 1 album + 2 Arkiv albums : [E] Anderson Morning - with flutist vocalist Maureen Anderson - 5 albums : [F] D'juil - with Cellist David Dhonau - 28 albums + 5 Arkiv Albums : [G] julian Broadhurst & composer Johannas Schafer - 2 albums : H] The Flying Saucers - 5 albums : [I] OLArJ - with Flautist vocal Artist Ola Szmidt and David Dhonau - 1 album : [J] OLAU - with Ola Szmidt - 4 albums : [K] JJM With Markus Wenninger & Jurica Jelic - 1 album: [L] Wenninger Broadhurst - With woodwind specialist Markus Wenninger - 15 albums : [M] Anjelic - with Jurica Jelic and Marcus Beuter - 2 albums : [N] Konnyek - with pianist Maria Vesic - 5 albums : [O] Poet Reg Keeling - Audio Book - 1 album : [P] Alisian - with English Harpist Alison Katy - 1 album : [Q] Lords of The Dance - with Percussionist Walt Shaw- 2 albums : R] National Steel Blue with Burnt Paw - 1 album : [S] Ensemble Et Au with Jim Tetlow and David Dhonau - 2 albums : [T] Accortumn - 1 album : [U] Sonn Jaa - with Composer Sonja Grossner - 1 album.


- The Complete DCM Collaboration -

- [A] - HUDDERSFIELD IMPROMPTU : [] Three Undirected Pieces (2007).

- [B] - TETLOW & BROADHURST 1 - 10. I Meet Jim Tetlow at Bambu club Leicester 11th July 2007, performed there together 18th July as T& B : [] Live at Bambu (July 2007) - [] Qua - [] Orn
[] Under Normandy Bridges - [] Bridges above Us - [] Live in a Drum Group ( break) [] Koncertat - [] Sn for Solo Vn and Electronics - [] Better Than Even (Break) [] The Measure of Autumn (late 2008).

- [C] - ETUDA :1 & 2. I meet Chorographer Joanna Geldard early 2009 : [] Intonation W - [] Percussion W.

- I Meet David Dhonau and Maureen Anderson 2009 -

- [D] - REVENGE OF THE UMBRELLA PEOPLE 1 - 3 with Johannas Schafer ( Dr C) : [] Live at Pineapple Peppermint (released 2011) - [] Voration 1 - [] Voration 2 ( released 2021 in my Arkiv Box).

- [E] - ANDERSON MORNING 1 with Maureen Anderson : [] Anderson Morning (2009).

Tetlow & Broadhurst : 11 - 12 : [] Celestation - [] Promise to Return (August-September 2009).

- [F] - D'juil with Cellist David Dhonau : 1 - 8 : [] Ola (2010) - [] Projections - [] Exhibition music (Break) [] I heard a Rumour - [] For That We Love - [] Winter Light (Break) - [] Emma (spring 2011) - [] Damian.

- [G] - julian Broadhurst & Johannas Schafer 1 & 2 : [] Dialogue with friends (June 2010 (pub. 2018) - [] Symphony C (Published 2021).

Tetlow & Broadhurst 13 : [] Tredecadent Voices (May 2011).

- [H] - THE FLYING SOURCES 1 - 5 - [] Out from Venus - [] Home to Venus - [] Live at Area 51 - [] Saucer Blues - [] Cup without a Saucer (All Discovered 2011+).

D'juil : 9 - 15 : [] Strata - [] Tapippio - [] Virtual Live - [] Gargamelle
[] Bebop - [] Helios - [] In Colour Live (December 2011).

- [I] - OLArJ - with Ola Szmidt & D. Dhonau: [] The Cord of Life (February 2012).

- [J] - OLAU : 1 - 4 - with Ola Szmidt : [] Cordeal - [] Honeybees - [] Bride By Her Bachelors, Even - [] Sztriped Ice (All March 2012).


- The Break with Leicester 2012 -


Founding Music with Markus Wenninger - Jurica Jelic - Marcus Beauter and Maria Vesic - on my JJM Label.

- [K] - JJM With Markus Wenninger & Jurica Jelic : [] Breeze (August 2012).

- [L] - WENNINGER BROADHURST 1 - 3 - With Markus Wenninger : [] First Reply to Markus - [] Decollement Horizon - [] Rohre (August 2012).

- [M] - ANJELIC 1 - with Jurica Jelic and Marcus Beuter : [] Study no. 1 - Angel.

Anderson Morning 2 : [] Cabaret Dada (released September 2012).

D'juil 16 : [] Leicester Old Grey Live (released September 2012).

Anjelic 2 : [] Blood and the soil (October 2012).

- [N] - KONNYEK 1 - 3 with Marina Vesic: [] Sn for Pn & Percussion no. 1 - [] Sn for Pn & Percussion no. 2 ‘In Tears’ - [] Lady Blue Black (Oct. 2012). .

- [O] - REG KEELING - Audio Book : [] A Winters Journey (Oct. 2012).

Wenninger Broadhurst 4 & 5 : [] Red Frame Blue (January 2013)
[] Avatar.

Tetlow & Broadhurst 14 : [] OBAH (February 2013).

Konnyek 4 : [] Sonate Concret (February 2013).

- [P] - ALISIAN - with English Harpist Alison Katy : [] Elvaston meadows (March 2013).

- [Q] - LORDS OF THE DANCE 1 & 2 with Percussionist Walt Shaw : [] Music for Metal Percussion - [] Electric Surface (Both May 2013).

D’juil Arkiv : [] Sunrise Festival Live (Aug 2013) [Desk release 2022].

Wenninger Broadhurst 6 : [] Lollapolusa - The lost Hour (Sep. 2013).

D'juil 17 : [] Elemental String Music (October 2013).

Wenninger Broadhurst 7 : [] Black Star Music (December 2013).

Konnyek 5: [] Horizon (2013).

Tetlow & Broadhurst 15 : [] Venus & Adonis (June 2014).

D'juil 18 - 20: [] Belladonna - [] Arkiv - Art London Live (August 2014) - [] Arkiv - Art London Live [released 2022] - [] Plateau - [] Vingt (June - October 2014).

Wenninger Broadhurst 8 - 10: [] The Unquestioned Answer - [] Virtual Glass - [] With Wisest Sorrow (November 2014).

Tetlow & Broadhurst 16 & 17: [] Frozen - [] Sirius A (late 2014/January 2015).

Anderson Morning 3 -: [] AM3 (May 2015).

- [R] - NATIONAL STEEL BLUE - with Burnt Paw : [] Blues Suite 1 & 2 (June 2015).

Wenninger Broadhurst 11 & 12: [] Neble A
[] Neble B & C (March 2016).

- [S] - EMSEMBLE ET AU 1: [] Kornu (January 2017).

Tetlow & Broadhurst 18 and 19 : [] Improbable Live
[] Bau Out (from Kornu session January 2017).

- [T] - ACCORTUMN - with D. Dhonau & M. Sole and Mike Sole :
[] Autumn - Winter (January 2017).

D'juil 21 & 22 : [] Later Blue - [] PRecital (early 2017).

- [U] - Sonn JAA - with Composer Sonja Grossner : [] Wind and Whatever (October 2017).

Ensemble Et Au 2 : [] One Flew Over (July 2018).

D'juil 23 & 24: [] In Nomine - [] Textures on an English Ground (Autumn 2018).

Wenninger Broadhurst 13: [] Windhaus for Anna - in the wake of Beriom(October 2018).

Anderson Morning 4 - [] They Make Music [An Opera for voices]. On my MSEP Discography (2019).

S'ra-D'juil 25 : [] Trio in Five Parts (2019).

Wenninger Broadhurst 14 & 15: [] Konnyek - for amplified Duet - [] Music in the Wake of Konnyek - Wenninger Solo (August 2020).

D’juil 26 - 28: [] Mir A & B - [] Open Your Eyes ( Dhonau Solo) - [] Breathe First A, B & C (2021).

Anderson Morning 5: [] AM5 (February 22).

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released May 19, 2013

Martin Cudwoth [AKA Syd Cup],
From the Bootleg 'Syd Cup and the Flying Saucers' [twinkle moonbeam Records] Aquired and reissued as 'Cup without a Saucer' by DCM

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